>> I would think bludgeoning them with the capacitor itself would be a more >> efficient approach. > > My thesis on brute force cryptography had a short section on > rubber-hose cryptography. Sounds familiar. I long ago had someone state a situation something like this. "Your system will have a cryptographically secure password. Copies will be held in secure bank vaults to protect against your unavailability and the only other copy will be remembered by you and not written down. One night two tidily presented men will knock on your door. They will make suggestions to you re the welfare of your two children, both of whom are currently out for the evening with their friends. You will tell them the password." That was more "chilling" than most things I heard on information security. Security that depends on the human factor is not much security at all. Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .