....ultracap energy density...is about 1/10 of a decent battery. Quite true. I'm sufficiently inefficient at soldering that I doubt it'd matter, providing the iron's cradle also charged it. Maybe the DX model one of Russel's near-field chargers.... ;) Jack --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .