I concur with Joe, more or less. I've heard of double glazing being done but don't think I have ever seen any (except in Mr Boeing and Mr Airbus's fine products. But home insulation is the norm, is well enough promoted and, as joe says, and is government subsidised. It's mandatory in new homes. Winter in Auckland usually gets as cold as frost plus ice on garden ponds in some areas sometime. It snowed lightly here in a few places in the urban areas last Winter - something I have not seen in person in my lifetime, including this time, alas. In the South Island Winter can be substantially more severe with occasional ones so bad that sheep and cattle die in substantial numbers when snowed in. Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .