> NZ like Australia on the whole, considers insulation and double/triple > glazing to be the province of weird-thinking people As a weird-thinking people, I'd say that's much more true of glazing. I've never encountered a door-to-door double-glazing salesman for example, the butt of many a UK joke The government promotes insulation but you hardly hear anything about double glazing. I know of only one - occassional - advertiser for it and that's on radio, once a week in a sport program (it's one of those 'phone-out' chats, the presenter's probably got it free) Much older homes do tend to be un- or poorly insulated but installation is subsidised. Cold in NZ is not so much a problem as humidity, and insulation keeps the house dry and free from mould, helping to prevent spore-related sicknesses and asthma --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .