> -----Original Message----- > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu On Behalf Of alan.b.pearce@stfc.ac.uk > Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 6:17 AM > > Has anyone else seen this discussion on the MPLAB x EULA? > > http://www.microchip.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=3D630935 According to a June 2009 forum post, they have this clause in the dsPIC dev kit EULA too. http://www.microchip.com/forums/m428684.aspx I do not believe our corporate lawyers will allow me to agree to a EULA wit= h this onerous of a condition. So I won't be trying out MPLAB X for debugging if Microchip keeps this requirement. Seeing this I got nervous because I hadn't carefully read the licenses for MPLAB 8 and Hi-Tech C Pro that we recently started using on a new project. So I checked and MPLAB 8 and Hi-Tech C Pro do not include this clause. This is a big relief because if this clause was there I would have to bring it t= o the lawyers which incurs $$$. If the lawyers said no as I suspect, I'd have to uninstall the software and remove the Microchip processor from the desig= n since AFAIK there is no way to use Real-Ice for debugging Hi-Tech C code without MPLAB. Then of course the entire corporation would be pissed off at Microchip because we'd be out a few thousand bucks and a couple months behind on a development project. I hope they come to their senses and remove this insane EULA condition. Oh and in case Microchip sees this, even if I had signed such a EULA there is no way I'd let you uninvited on premises so you'd have to get a court order. Why not just skip the ridiculous EULA clause and if you ever feel th= e need to enter a customers premises without their permission just go and get the court order first. Paul Hutch --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .