Byron Jeff wrote 2012-01-24 20:06: > On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 06:27:02PM -0500, Bob Ammerman wrote: >>>>> When is the time to make the Enhanced PIC16 architecture >>>>> the standard/default PIC16 architecture ? :-) >>>>> Like when noone today thinks of the Baseline arhitecture >>>>> when talking about the "PIC16 architecture". >>>>> >>>>> Jan-Erik. >> >> Maybe when the 16F84 is finally dead :-) > > Which unfortunately may never happen. Microchip keeps trying to get folks > to move with their pricing. But the inertia of the internet and the > fundamental lack of understanding of most newbies makes it difficult. It'= s > one of the reasons I wrote this page several years ago: > > http://www.finitesite.com/d3jsys/16F88.html > > The title today would be: > > The PIC 16F1827: why the 16f84/16f628/16f88/16f690 is really really reall= y > really obsolete... > > The enhanced midrange chips have specs off the charts: > > Full chip ADC, capsense, comparitors, tons of timers, EUSART and MSSP and > both can be used at the same time, PWM/CCP, 4K program memory, 384 bytes = of > ram, linear ram addressing, internal oscillator up to 32 Mhz, dual FSR/IN= D > registers with multiple addressing modes. It's just tremendous. Priced at > Microchip Direct for $1.67 each singles. Digikey breaks below that price > point for 10. > And more or less the same specs for the PIC12F1840 8-pin chip! Below a dollar each if you take 100 from Digikey. A big step from the 12F675/629/683... Including "Data Signal Modulator" module and "SR Latch" (emulates 555 Timer applications). Maybe they are par of the 16F1827 also, I don't know. Jan-Erik. > 16F84A's are nearly $4 each and has absolutely nothing other than timer0. > > It's hard to get newbies to see that if they want to develop anything tha= t > having more tools makes it easier to do, but harder to learn. The 16F84 > does the opposite: easy to get started, difficult to do anything real or > substantial. > > BAJ > >> >> -- Bob Ammerman >> RAm Systems >> >> -- >> http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ& list archive >> View/change your membership options at >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .