On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 06:27:02PM -0500, Bob Ammerman wrote: > >>> When is the time to make the Enhanced PIC16 architecture > >>> the standard/default PIC16 architecture ? :-) > >>> Like when noone today thinks of the Baseline arhitecture > >>> when talking about the "PIC16 architecture". > >>> > >>> Jan-Erik. >=20 > Maybe when the 16F84 is finally dead :-) Which unfortunately may never happen. Microchip keeps trying to get folks to move with their pricing. But the inertia of the internet and the fundamental lack of understanding of most newbies makes it difficult. It's one of the reasons I wrote this page several years ago: http://www.finitesite.com/d3jsys/16F88.html The title today would be: The PIC 16F1827: why the 16f84/16f628/16f88/16f690 is really really really really obsolete... The enhanced midrange chips have specs off the charts: Full chip ADC, capsense, comparitors, tons of timers, EUSART and MSSP and both can be used at the same time, PWM/CCP, 4K program memory, 384 bytes of ram, linear ram addressing, internal oscillator up to 32 Mhz, dual FSR/IND registers with multiple addressing modes. It's just tremendous. Priced at Microchip Direct for $1.67 each singles. Digikey breaks below that price point for 10. 16F84A's are nearly $4 each and has absolutely nothing other than timer0. It's hard to get newbies to see that if they want to develop anything that having more tools makes it easier to do, but harder to learn. The 16F84 does the opposite: easy to get started, difficult to do anything real or substantial. BAJ >=20 > -- Bob Ammerman > RAm Systems >=20 > --=20 > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --=20 Byron A. Jeff Department Chair: IT/CS/CNET College of Information and Mathematical Sciences Clayton State University http://cims.clayton.edu/bjeff --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .