At 20.00 2012.01.11, you wrote: >At 10:32 AM 11/01/2012, you wrote: > >>Hello, >>what happens when a negative swing at the base of a NPN transistor=20 >>reachs the break down voltage? >> >>Does it turn on the transistor, and then as long as the current is=20 >>limited to a safe value, it won't damage it or do other weird things? >> >>I can see breakdown voltage specified in datasheets, but not what=20 >>will happen if it gets reached. As I understand it, PN junctions do=20 >>not suffer damage from breakdown like e.g. a Schottky or a MOSFET gate wo= uld. >> >>Thanks! >>Mario > >A few things that may be unexpected-- > >- a permanent reduction of transistor beta. This is > essentially damage to the BJT that is (practically speaking) > irreversible. You should thus avoid that region of operation > if you want to use it again as a transistor (once a noise source..) > This is why you often see an inverse-parallel switching diode. > >- you can make a relaxation oscillator with just the > C & E pins if the transistor is flipped (so the base-emitter > junction breaks down). Again, permanent degradation of forward beta. > >- you can get a bit of current of unexpected polarity at the > collector if you break the E-B junction down- it's a result > of IR light being emitted by the E-B junction and received by > the C-E junction! Again, permanent degradation of forward beta. Thank you. It's clear that I won't use it then. But I will remember it in case I'll ever need a white noise source better than a zener, the beta is irrelevant for this application and it can be useful in this case. Cheers, MarI/O > >Best regards, > >Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the rewa= rd" >speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.c= om >Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.c= om > > > >--=20 >http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive >View/change your membership options at >http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .