>I use a Dremel drill press to drill the holes Carl, must admit I don't like a press as much as hand-held for very smaller diameter bits, especially the composite ones which tend to be brittle. I hold the drill with the right hand and use the left hand index finger as a feedback to gauge the pressure and as a stabiliser. For 2mm and above I'm OK with a press though Eric, here's a board I finished yesterday http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/joecolquitt/4bit_sm.jpg Overall it would have taken less time than trying to fudge about with irregular components (eg SMT parts inc. SD card socket) on 0.1" board. And it's tidy and robust enough to last for many months of development. One additional benefit is that, because of the shift towards cheaper SMT packages, the ability to make and drill your own is now more often cost effective than it used to be (at the prototype/short run stage) Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .