>As a result I started to think about moving up to photoresist > PCB etching Could I humbly suggest you DO look at drilling your own ? I've not used perf board (Vero) for a very long time though I do use breadboards, because 0.1" is not dead just yet But for an equally very long time I've etched and drilled my own prototype boards as so many parts are not 0.1". And in fact DIP is more commonly no longer an option for ICs The toner-transfer method is quick, cheap, simple and repeatable. A $20 mini-drill and 1mm tungsten carbide bit is all you need for 99% of through-hole. 1.2mm, 1.5mm and 3mm steel bits will cover the 1% For the minimal investment it is so worth it Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .