without finger-pointing, Something my employer, a major auto maker, 4 letters, first is a "F")=20 taught us probably in late 80's. Stick to the facts of where you are,=20 and not who did it. i.e. We have a group of defective parts, NOT, Joe's=20 night shift made the bad parts. Then no confrontation or defensive=20 thinking. It was definitely team effort. :) --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .