At 03:51 PM 19/12/2011, you wrote: >Long story short we had a major cluster F in production - >But I'm sitting them all down >and doing the "after action review" tomorrow and was looking for some >sticks to beat them with. I know where you're coming from, and it can be pretty tempting (indeed, even to use real sticks rather than the rhetorical type). But perhaps it might be good to meet with the people and review the factual issues without finger-pointing, and invite suggestions as to how this can be prevented from ever happening again. I'm not sure that impugning their ethics is the most effective way to get cooperation from the employees, even if you're pretty confident they were acting like brain-dead slobs- there may actually be some valid reason(s) for the f'ups- such as them feeling they were being pushed to ship, or something else entirely. A good time to haul out the leadership skill set-- best of luck with it! Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the rewar= d" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.co= m Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.co= m --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .