>> I read 10+ years ago. >> >> Long story short we had a major cluster F in production - >> 1. Incoming inspection missed a majorly obvious problem. >> Several steps into the assembly it was finally noticed - undo the assemb= ly >> and send it back to supplier. >> 2. Incoming inspection missed a second majorly obvious problem that they >> should have seen in the first inspection. >> Several plus one steps into the assembly the second problem was noticed = - >> undo the assembly and send it back to supplier again. >> 3. Incoming inspection missed a third majorly obvious problem caused by = the >> first "fix". >> Several plus two steps into the assembly the third problem was noticed = - >> this is where I get involved. >> >> The people involved are not professional engineers, there won't be a >> "tribunal" or other such formal proceedings. But I'm sitting them all do= wn >> and doing the "after action review" tomorrow and was looking for some >> sticks to beat them with. >> =20 This sounds like more of a breakdown in procedures. There should be a=20 testing/qualifying procedure in writing that is followed. (A checklist).=20 The various parties generate this list at design time, whether it be the=20 list of customer requirements as a start, and further developed to=20 encompass possible difficulties. This type of procedure comes under Lean=20 and Six Sigma tools areas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_sigma This shouldn't be a "Sticks to beat them", but educational session, on=20 how to improve. :) --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .