> where would my friend get 10 volts from? A couple of MC34063 would provide +/- 10V from a single DC supply eg here's -10V I need for an LCD http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/joecolquitt/bmp2lcd.html with another MC34063 as a positive step-down/up, depending on the DC supply value As Isaac said, a 78xx can be used for the +10V. It needn't necessarily be a 7810, as the reference ('ground') pin can be lifted above 0V. Similarly an LM317 Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .