> > I would approach this from a slightly different angle. =A0Discover > > what the client does / does not like about the system (apart fro Not to rub things in , but I passed the original query on to a friend who has used SQL for 10yeas in the hope he may be able to help with the conversion request. He didn't comment on that but did say: ________________ I would not agree about SQL 2005 being crap. We used if for several years ( now using SQL 2008) and it has been remarkably robust. The problem this developer has is more likely in the BASIC program that is driving it or in the structural design of the database itself with foreign keys and such. Poorly structured database designs can be doomed from the start. Just thoughts from someone who is NOT a database expert but has used SQL for 10 years and been impressed Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .