Electron wrote: > say I have a signal generator that is generating low frequency pulses wit= h > very quick rising/falling times, connected directly to my oscilloscope, a= nd > (through a BNC splitter) to a couple of 1 meter long wires (one for signa= l > the other for ground), open for now. >=20 > I can see a nice waveform, which looks as it should. >=20 > Now I add a capacitor to the end of the 1 meter cable (not a coaxial cabl= e, > just 2 wires), and of course the waveform will look distorted, because th= e > capacitor is loading the 50 ohm output of the signal generator. >=20 > BUT if I set the 2 Gsps oscilloscope to measure peak, I can see that just > after the rising and falling slopes, now that I have added the capacitor > there have appeared voltage spikes. >=20 > It doesn't surprise me, but what I cannot be 100% sure of is if these spi= kes > are due to transmission line effects (probably they are), or by inductive > effects (of the cable and/or of the capacitor)? Short answer: Yes. Longer answer: A transmission line is simply a pair of conductors with distributed inductance and capacitance, so in the end, you really have to consider the lumped effects and the distributed effects together. For a good introduction, see Robert Lacoste's column in Circuit Cellar -- i= n particular: #223 February 2009, p. 64, Microstrip Techniques #225 April 2009, p. 50, Time Domain Reflectometry - Detect and Measure Impedance Mismatches #227 June 2009, p. 52, High-Speed Signal Transmission - From Eye Diagrams t= o Preemphasis and Equalization #245 December 2010, p. 50, Parasitic Components - When Capacitors Behave Li= ke Inductors #253 August 2011, p. 64, RF and High-Speed PCBs - How to Avoid Basic Mistak= es=20 I followed up on this topic myself in my EQ quiz in issue #226. Questions #1 and #2 directly address the situation you're asking about. #226 May 2009, p. 13, HTML T= est Your EQ=20 -- Dave Tweed --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .