Hi, Jan-Erik... Thanks for responding. "The 16F886 supports in-circuit debugging so you don't need an ICD header, but you will need an adapter cable if you use an ICD instead of a PicKit." That's what I needed to know. thanks again, Jack --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .