On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Byron Jeff wr= ote: > You've hit upon a fundamental paradox if your goal is to create a USB PIC > programmer using a PIC. To create the programmer, you have to program the > PIC. But in order to program the PIC, you need a programmer. And if you g= et > a programmer, then there's no real need to build a programmer. This seems to cover what you need to do in order to bootstrap a PIC program= mer: http://dangerousprototypes.com/2011/11/01/bootstrapping-a-picqueno32/ Honestly, just popping for a cheap PK2 clone seems to make a lot more sense= .. -p. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .