Hi again :o a title that resembles the one of Bladerunner's original novel. :D I have a 4 traces oscilloscope, actually I need all of the 4 traces to correlate various parts of the circuit I'm working on (designing), which is battery operated and thus isolated from mains' ground. The oscilloscope's 4 channels' grounds are not isolated each other, and now I developed the concern that the oscilloscope may itself cause ground loops. Should I use only one probes' ground, and let disconnected all the other 3? By the way, it would be cool if LTSpice "wire" let specify the thickness (AWG) and length, so to simulate parasitic inductance and resistance of the wire, which means a lot (we were talking about ground loops, weren't we? :) ). With kind regards, Mario --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .