Atmel has some good products, but I find it tough to base production =20 items on a company that AFAIK still hasn't turned a profit. And if =20 you think you had problems with Microchip support, then best of luck =20 with Atmel. I requested samples from Atmel, never received them, then =20 called a few times (Digikey & Mouser were out of them btw). Samples =20 only came after the local FAE wanted to meet me. He gave me a free =20 AVR Dragon programmer, which I never was able to get working, and =20 subsequent emails to the FAE were not responded to. Then there's that =20 whole thing with their lawyers not agreeing to keep any discussions I =20 have with the FAE confidential. A lot of their support is through the =20 forum (which IIRC is supported by Atmel), but I have not been able to =20 register (not receiving confirmation emails), and can't reach anyone =20 to assist with that. And Atmel allegedly has a lot of chip shortages. Microchip isn't perfect, but I can usually call an FAE for help if I =20 can't get an answer on the forum (and I've called FAE's in Texas when =20 I was in a bind/rush). Yes, they've had shortages too, but only once =20 was I in a bind and called up an FAE I knew in Texas, who scoured the =20 office for 17 pieces of a PIC and sent it to me -- at no charge. My perception of Atmel, since they're partnering with the Arduino =20 folks now, is that they're moving to primarily support the hobbyist =20 market. To each their own, so you need to decide what works best for =20 you. If you've a hobbyist, I think you'll be fine with Atmel. Cheers, -Neil. Quoting enkitec@gmail.com: > On 12-Nov-11 08:48, jana1972@centrum.cz wrote: >> I think can spend my time on learning AVR instead >> >> > > You won't regret that decision! > > I changed to AVR some ten years ago. > > Mark Jordan > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .