Hat: Spring bonnet (southern hemisphere). It would be really really good if the mild and harmless banter on this thread does not inexplicably turn into something less pleasant, as inexplicably seems to happen often enough when harmless banterings of this sort arise. Of itself I'm not even overly concerned if people turn harmless banterings into pushings and shovings - guys have to do what guys seem to have to do on occasion, who can say why. But there tend to also be less welcome spinoffs often enough that I feel stirred enough to comment now. Russell Bonnets away ... --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .