Thanks ALL who replied. I do use capacitors in the schematic. Please see the schematic here http://www.dilynamobily.cz/Media/Uploaded/Normal/Problem.jpg ( the link is case sensitive) My problem is that I can not debug any program using PIC16f648A - ICD=20 Please check and let me know if you can see any problem Thanks L. > OK, whatever. >=20 > We don't know for sure if there are any capacitors or not. > And if not, isn't it a possible "problem" ? > I think it is. >=20 >=20 > jim wrote 2011-11-05 14:53: > > > > The main reason for the capacitors in a crystal circuit is to provide a= n > > intentional imbalance between the input of the oscillator and output pi= n of > > the oscillator so that when power is applied, the imbalance causess cur= rent > > to flow, and thereby guarantees the oscillator will start oscillating. > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behal= f Of > > Isaac Marino Bavaresco > > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 7:45 AM > > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > > Subject: Re: [PIC] IS this faulty? > > > > Em 5/11/2011 10:57, Jan-Erik Soderholm escreveu: > >>>> I *think* that the header is useless without a target circuit. > >>> But what is the smallest target circuit?I thought adding only crystal= is > >>> OK for starting debugging > >> Right, but a crystal is useless without capacitors. And it is > >> a bit unclear how the header is powered. > > > > > > Not exactly. It may become unstable, or not to oscillate at all, but it= may. > > > > > >>> Sorry, I have just only started with microchips - so a lot of new > >>> knowledge for me to learn. > >> It's not about learing PICs, it's about telling everything and > >> not hiding details. :-) > > > > > > By my experience with teaching newbies in electronics and > > microcontrollers, it takes time to notice that there's missing informat= ion. > > Because of this, I generally take it easy with them. > > > > > > Isaac > > > --=20 > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .