I *think* that the ICD headers are covered by the life-time free replacement of Microchip development tools. But you'd better check directly with them... Is hard to use it as a normalt chip becuse it's in the header. But appart from that, I do not know of any other limitations. Jan-Erik. jana1972@centrum.cz wrote 2011-11-03 18:53: > Thanks for the reply. > And are there any rules I must follow so that I will not damage the "PIC= 16F648A-IDC" chip > e.g. by programming/debugging? > Or can I use it like the normal chip? > > Thanks again > L. > > And are there any rules >> > I can replace PIC16F648A supplied with the header, with any other >> > PIC16F648A ? >> >> No. >> >> The processor in the header (this is so for debugging headers >> for any "low-pin-count" processor) has extra pins for the debug >> functions so that all standard pins are available for the app. >> And these standard pins are connected to the DIP connector >> that you connect to your target curcuit. >> >> I think the "PIC16F648A-IDC" chip has 4 or 6 more pins than the >> standard PIC16F627A/628A/648A package. >> >> But this is clearly shown with pin-out pictures in the docs, not ? >> Have you checked ? >> >> Jan-Erik. >> >> jana1972@centrum.cz wrote 2011-11-03 16:01: >>> Jan-Erik Soderholm, >>> Thank you for your reply. >>> So, does it mean that PIC16F648A on the header is only and only BLANK = PIC16F648A ( >>> without any special program inside that makes debugging possible) ? >>> In other words, I can replace PIC16F648A supplied with the header, with= any other >>> PIC16F648A ? >>> Thanks for the reply >>> L. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> jana1972@centrum.cz wrote 2011-11-03 13:18: >>>>> I am a newbie with ICD3 debugger and also with ICD header. >>>>> As I needed to debug PIC16F628A I had to buy the header file with >>>>> PIC16F648A. >>>>> Does it mean that PIC16F648A was programmed so that it consist of AL= L functions of >>>>> PIC16F628A ? >>>>> In other words is it not nescessary to use, during the development, >>>>> PIC16F628A in my >>>>> design? >>>>> But to use only the header file with PIC16F648A instead? >>>>> And only after the code is without errors and debugged , I will progr= am >>>>> the code into >>>>> PIC16F628A? >>>> >>>> Yes, as long as you do not use anything that the 628A doesn't have. >>>> Mostly memory in the 2-4 kWord area. >>>> >>>> Note that the docs specificaly says that you can use that header >>>> to debug code for 627A, 628A and 648A. Don't you trust the docs ? >>>> >>>> >>>>> Or must I use, during development both PIC16F648A and PIC16F628A? >>>>> Thanks >>>>> L. >>>> -- >>>> http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ& list archive >>>> View/change your membership options at >>>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist >>> >>> >> -- >> http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ& list archive >> View/change your membership options at >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .