In the previous post a poster said that that is not the section to discuss Searl effect or LIGO, but the original post itself was about a sort of helicopter - which is a device used for transportation. Net energy consumed is used to earn potential energy to an object ; as a result it is a work against gravity. At this point it is perfectly reasonable to introduce alternative approaches to the problem. LIGO investigates the nature of gravity and Searl effect exploits it. I wasn't trying to talk about LIGO or the Searl effect itself, it seemed to me that the study in the original post is a bit exaggerated where it claims that "It uses a completely different technology compared to standard helicopter technology". They add ; "which we now consider obsolete". Helicopter, multicopter or Xcopter they all base on the same principle, there is nothing new. I just wanted to point to something which is much more "new" and "efficient". Once the nature of gravity is expressed in terms of our current understandings, we will be able to manipulate and play with it - this is where LIGO kicks in. At the end of 2015 ALIGO will sit to the determined orbit and there will be much more data to correlate. On the other hand, I am personally interested in the Searl effect - that's true. I have researched and gone after the Searl effect, studied all public resources and some private ones around the world. I almost got the chance to meet John personally while I was doing some stuff in UK but that never happened. Although, I got chance to meet someone, one of John's fellows living in US (who seemed to know more about SEG than John himself), who also dedicated his life to SEG. He had built around 30~ prototypes in 10~ years and there is -serious evidence- that the effect exists. There are other parties that proved the SEG operation. We will also be building a modified version in 2012. SEG is documented in detail and except some key tricks and stuff - some of the design details are published publicly. I had tried to simulate "the effect" but that was hell of a work only with death ends. Phenomena should be mastered and pioneered where there is a huge lack in analytical understanding still. I will -definitely- avoid discussions regarding the existence and validity of SEG, attacks related to "conservation of energy" region of the spectrum will be reflected with a %100 reflecting mirror. On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Jim Higgins wrote: > Received from Yigit Turgut at 11/03/11 11:08 UTC: > >>I don't believe this can ever be an efficient and practical transportatio= n >>system due to a dozen of reasons one can easily spot. =A0IMO transportati= on >>will seriously evolve when LIGO discovers more about gravitational wave's >>nature. When outputs are combined with precisely pioneered know-how of th= e >>Searl effect. > > > res ipsa loquitur > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Searl > > http://www.searleffect.com/free/overview.html > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .