Carey said: > Media today carrying "news" that "bogus/fake/reworked/defective" chips fr= om > the far east are getting into USA military equipment endangering troops, > etc. =A0Not surprising but disappointing. =A0What are the legions of gove= rnment > QA inspectors that stop production at the tiniest (sometimes imagined) > infraction doing? > > Carey Fisher The number 1 rule I've learned from doing things in "the Far East". You have to be there! You MUST have a competent nominee "on the ground" who has your and only your interests at heart and who is authorised to act on your behalf. With respect to ICs this means at a minimum that you need traceability up a supply chain OR deal with people out of country who take this rule seriously. eg if you buy from Digikey you expect them to be serious enough that they have buyers in country who do random factory visits and inspections and who know what they are looking for. And even at that level it only just might work as there is enough indirection and wriggle room. If you were eg getting people to make volume quantities of products for you and ship them directly to a customer you need at very very very least a competent inspection service you can trust or, really, your woman/man on site. Anything less than this produces certain results.(The nominee can be a national of the country concerned - but they MUST be YOUR person in heart and mind.) Russell McMahon --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .