--_003_CACZQxzNgowRsUx7494XwZzGTpMBFqMTrVnjfeOBQG62bOAAmailgma_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, could anybody please suggest me a good and possibly cheap (it's not for a one-off) small, nice, step down SMPS IC with wide input voltage range (say 6..40 or more V) out =3D 5V (even better, dual out 5V / 12V ) 100+mA? 40V+ input narrows the range and "cheap" seems to vanish. __________________ LM5085 $1.24/1000 Digikey $1.07/10000 Digikey Reasonably nice IC if $1+ OK. External FET (more $) 4.5 - 75 Vin External FET Freq prog to 1 Mhz. 95% at 500 mA out at 7V in 80%+ at higher Iouts at most Vins. MSOP-8, LLP-8 (3mm x 3mm) http://www.national.com/ds/LM/LM5085.pdf ___________________ Worsish in some ways but aimed at efficiency at lower loads with PFM Graphs on pages 23 + 24 would give you a fright when you first met them being implemented in action. eg Infineon offer eg TLE 629 TLE6389-3G V50CT-ND However, as that uses an external FET switch a little playing could extend the range indefinitely ___________________ But, there's always the time honoured MC34063 which has a switch abs max voltage of 40V stand alone and as high as you like with external FET. Only 100 kHz ish so larger L's but very minimal parts count up to ~~~ 40V. http://www.st.com/internet/com/TECHNICAL_RESOURCES/TECHNICAL_LITERATURE/DAT= ASHEET/CD00001232.pdf See figs 15+16 for minimum parts buck cct. and PCB layout IC. 3R, 1C, D, L + 2 x filter caps. Not marvellous efficiency at low Vin due to non saturating darlington driver but can add external FET if desired. $0.19 / 1000 Digikey $0.124/50,000 Digikey $US0.05 - 0.10 / China (Motorola licenced copy) _______________________ "My" "God's switching Regulator" [tm] will do this with 3 jellybean transistors 4R, 1D. 1L, 1Z, 2 x filter caps. Attached is someone's apparently parallel reincarnation of my design. That's from here : http://sound.westhost.com//appnotes/an006.htm With a constant current version here http://sound.westhost.com//appnotes/an003.htm I've had versions of this that ran at Vin from 12V to 200V and Vout =3D 12V= .. Below 12V Vout tracked Vin less Q3 saturation. There are 10,000++ of these "out there" so ignore people who say it won't work :-). 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