At 02:00 AM 10/27/2011, IVP wrote: >Hi all, > >I came across this H-bridge circuit, a design I've not seen before > >The only comment is "Note the diode; this allows adequate base current >from a regulated 5V supply. Have an LED if you are putting in the full >7.4V as an input, such as with booster transistors" > >Apparently it "works well with RC bots", such as this tracked tank Aside from the diodes being drawn backwards, I think that its pretty=20 cute. I don't think that this is anything that I'd ever use (most of=20 my stuff is for Industrial customers) but I can sure see a=20 high-volume toy manufacturer going with something like this. I'm assuming that they are using older (low-intensity) green or=20 yellow LEDs (Vf ~2.1V) as opposed to red (~1.7V) or=20 high-intensity green, blue or white LEDs (~3.2V). Let me see . . . You said Darlington transistors. 7.4V - 1.2V (Vbe)=20 - 2.5V (nominal idle point) =3D 3.7V. Hmm - use 2- red LEDs in series. I'm assuming that in China, cheap LEDs can be had for about the same=20 price as I would pay for a resistor here in North America. That=20 would make this a very cost effective design. Especially if the LEDs=20 were part of the exterior 'bells and whistles' jazzy lighting effects. Not a great design, in my opinion, but entirely adequate for the=20 consumer toy market. In fact, the more I study the diagram and work the numbers, the more=20 I think that its a pretty good design. I'd probably add a single series resistor between the W2 output and=20 the center of the LED string that feeds the upper half-bridge. You=20 could also probably change the upper half-bridge transistors to be=20 not Darlington if you wished to reduce losses in the output transistors. dwayne --=20 Dwayne Reid Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd Edmonton, AB, CANADA (780) 489-3199 voice (780) 487-6397 fax www.trinity-electronics.com Custom Electronics Design and Manufacturing --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .