I believe that the traditional length in feet =3D 468/frequency (MHz) is intentionally shorter than the free space value to get even closer to the exact practical half-wave wire dipole length. I don't think it is just velocity factor - the current and voltage distribution on a half wave dipole are not exact sinusoids and I think that makes a few percent difference in the optimal length. Sean On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:56 PM, RussellMc wrote: >> > You mean like "to get the length of your dipole antenna, divide 468 by >> > the frequency"? (which gives you the length in feet, of course.) > >> ... if you use the right unit for frequency, of course :) > >> Exactly this. I hate it; it doesn't convey understanding as more >> sensible formulas tend to do, and I just can't remember such stuff. > > I too like my formulae to make sense. This one does once you remove > the rubbish and convert to 'propr units' [tm]. > > As written it has a velocity factor and/or and end effect allowance, > both of which 'muck it up' . > > If instead you use (in real units [tm]) > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Wavelength ~=3D 300 / f =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0F in Mhz, wavelength in metres > > You see (of course): Speed of light ~=3D 3 x 10^8 m/s poking its head up. > Divide by E6 for Hz: Mhz and the 300 makes perfect sense. > NOW you can remember it. > Now we can convert to arcane units (say feet) and add whatever factors > we see fot and divide by 2 to get =A0half-wave dipole. > > Sanity check. > 1 MHz. > 1 wavelength =3D 300/1 =3D 300 metres. > Hlf wavelength =3D 150 metres. > 150/0.3048 =3D 492 feet. > The original length is short by a factor of 468/492 =3D 0.9512 -> say 0.9= 5 > > So wavelength =3D f/300 x Kwl > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 f in MHz > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 length in metres > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Kwl =3D 0.95 =3D Murphy, end effect, velocity factor, ban= k holidays, ... > > FWIW this has the (obvious but nice) reciprocal results > > MHz =A0=3D 300 / Wavelength > & > Wavelength =3D 300 / MHz > > > > =A0 =A0 Russell > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .