My start was on a Netronics Super ELF. I had a Video chip, a HEX keypad, and 256 bytes of RAM. I could display the starship Enterprise on a video monitor with that computer. And it only took about 10 minutes to type in the program.=20 After the oohs and aahs subsided, I would then take another 10 minutes or s= o to type in a different Program to do some other bit of magic. =20 Ah, the days gone by. Jim=20 -----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of IVP Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 6:12 PM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [PIC] What programming lamguage > I can't be the only person to start my low level programming > career with a ZX81, armed only with a manual and a hex editor My very first exposure to a major construction project and personal computing was the ETI-660. In at the deep end http://mattmik.com/eti-660/ Based on the RCA 1802. Still have it All programming was in hex through the keys. (remember hex listings in magazines like Compute ! No downloads in those days) After that introduction the fully-featured Commodore 64 was a relative doddle to do assembly on, and 68HC and PICs after that Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .