> I can't be the only person to start my low level programming > career with a ZX81, armed only with a manual and a hex editor My very first exposure to a major construction project and personal computing was the ETI-660. In at the deep end http://mattmik.com/eti-660/ Based on the RCA 1802. Still have it All programming was in hex through the keys. (remember hex listings in magazines like Compute ! No downloads in those days) After that introduction the fully-featured Commodore 64 was a relative doddle to do assembly on, and 68HC and PICs after that Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .