On Oct 15, 2011, at 1:50 AM, Mike Harrison wrote: >> That and the package. I think I'd be willing to work with an OTP if >> it didn't also require soldering to and using up a PCB for each >> iteration (or each couple iterations.) $95 sockets are not a >> solution... > > Why not? - actually the sockets are $18, but even if they were $95, =20 > that cost is a pretty trivial > part of development cost if your product is cost-sensitive enough to =20 > be looking at $0.18 parts as an > alternative to a $0.40 MCU Where did you find $18 sockets? That wouldn't be so bad. (they'd =20 have to be sockets, not adapter boards that you solder to!) (Ah, I =20 see. From Silego themselves! Just order both development kits and a =20 spare socket in each size. Should be interesting. Also, it appears that these are actually RAM-based logic, with the OTP =20 backing up the RAM. Using their (cheap) emulation/programming board, =20 you can apparently load up the RAM as many times as you want, do some =20 testing via their tools and external connections, and have a jolly old =20 time trying things out http://www.eetimes.com/design/programmable-logic/4218821/Silego-s-GreenPAK-= --Design-and-program-a-custom-chip-in-minutes=20 I wonder if it's possible to put a small battery or large cap on a =20 DIP adaptor board, and have a short-term part that can be moved from =20 one place to another? An interesting project. And they have a Mac version of their developement software. how could =20 I resist! BillW --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .