I still don't get the logic of this line: >Avoiding vaccination puts the entire community at risk, not just kids. And it shows up all the time! If vaccines indeed worked than those vaccinated wouldn't have to worry about this right? Reading this thread I believe there are many that rely on the sales hype propagated by the pharma industry and very willingly adopted by many! Personally I feel we (humans) are meddling in things we hardly understand, and there is a very obvious reason to be corrupt about pretending one academic or for profit pharma developer understood what they are doing! After all for the pharma industry its a win-win situation, if people get sick from their vaccines, they might bye other medicines to cure their new ailment. I recommend some more research! For example from this page: http://www.brainphreak.net/theblackpacket/healthfda/drugsvaccines.html especially 'Vaccines - The Risks, The Benefits, The Choices*'* * *another really good one is this one by Dr. Len Horrowitz: In Lies We Trust= : The CIA, Hollywood and Bioterrorism http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D-8674401787208020885 Anybody seen this clip where that Merk vaccine developer admits they packaged cancer causing viruses in their vaccine? Its included in Len's video! Not at all funny to see that they are again showing the same crimina= l negligence with our daughters whom they have targeted with Gardasil! If the smallest amount was spend on educating these girls how to balance their blood pH, that would eliminate cervical cancer much better! In my opinion the whole medical profession is either blind or corrupt, because he majority of diseases can be cured just by proper nutrition, yet MDs feel they wont make money enough if they even knew about curing by nutrition! If you know anybody who has cancer make sure they investigate th= e Max Gerson Method instead of chemo-murder! Hipocrates said "let thy food be thy medicine', but in all those years of studying medicine the subject nutrition is being foolishly neglected! Food Matters (2008) is a good one if you don't know about this aspect yet! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DRwZY1jaw2EM * * * * * * On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:48 AM, John Gardner wrote: > As you doubtless know, individual resistance to infection > conferred by vaccination is limited - It does not mean one is > immune, simply resistant. > > The macro response of an immunized population is at least > as important - If a disease cannot establish itself in individuals > to the point where it becomes contagious then it will effectively > disappear - Usually. > > There's no doubt that some risk is associated with vaccination. > It amounts to ppm now, and certainly can & should be reduced. > > Avoiding vaccination puts the entire community at risk, not just > kids. > > Another interesting 1900 stat: Average life span in the US was > 48 years; most common cause of death - Infectious disease... > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 Tobias Gogolin Tel. Movistar (646) 124 32 82 Tel. Telcel (646) 160 58 99 skype: moontogo messenger: usertogo@hotmail.com First Bitcoin Account: 1LCupcVd8HhAGyVhd3xayPpnQHeis7rAiV Blog: http://zeitgeistensenada.blogspot.com/ You develop Sustainable Ranch Technology at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SURA-TECH an Open Source Electric Motor/Alternator at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Performance_Axial_Flux and an Open Source Motor Controller at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GoBox --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .