> > The sitehttp://www.whale.to/ =A0 =A0 where the material came from > > is certainly an interesting one. > For a given definition of "interesting". That was probably largely if not quite wholly the one I had I mind. There is stuff to be learned everywhere, whether its the stuff the purveyors are conveying, or other, or some of each. But, you know that :-). I've not (yet) tried a wet paper bag for ball bearings. Sounds like an interesting experience to have. Not completely akin to boiling water in a paper bag with a candle. Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .