I've been making use of my Xprotolab for a while. Definitely handy. Larger = screen would be nifty, but that may push the price point too far. Having a = rotary encoder with a push button and a real menu system would be good. I'v= e been thinking of building a breakout board for it so I can easily hook up= a BNC probe, etc. -Pete On Sep 29, 2011, at 8:46 AM, doug metzler wrote: > I agree Chris - It is very capable. if the screen were just twice the > size and the buttons had some rudimentary labeling (or even little > rotary switches) I'd pay extra to have a small scope always at the > ready. >=20 > It might be nice to have a ribbon cable/pin arrangement so the newer > bigger scope doesn't take up too much breadboard real-estate. You > could even put it in a little angled case so it stands up, but I > suppose that's real money - unless you had a Makerbot to make the case > for you :-) >=20 > I'll re-flash with the latest firmware and see how it looks, >=20 > DougM >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Chris McSweeny wr= ote: >> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:54 AM, doug metzler w= rote: >>> Sorry for the delay in reporting back. >>>=20 >>> First thoughts: >>> it's really tiny! the screen is about the size of a quarter which, >>> unfortunately, for my old eyes is too small to be useful. >>> the buttons and menu system aren't terribly intuitive. I realize that >>> there isn't much space to work with so it's probably not a fair >>> criticism but still every time I try to use it I just get confused. >>=20 >> I suppose it depends what your expectations are. Clearly if your >> eyesight can't cope with the screen then it's not much use to you. I >> also agree that the menu system is a bit awkward - it is however much >> improved in the latest firmware release, so well worth upgrading >> (though I appreciate that not everybody has AVR programming tools). >> The thing is, it has a LOT of features, and trying to select those >> using 4 buttons and a small screen is never going to be that >> straightforward. >>=20 >> But once you get over that, it is a very capable little tool - >> oscilloscope, logic analyser (including protocol decoding), meter. I >> just wish the firmware was open source as there are a few things I'd >> like to tweak a bit. Which brings me onto the final thing I like about >> it - it's a great little platform for developing on. I know this is >> the PIC list, but programming an AVR in C isn't that hard to get your >> head round. The xmega chip has a lot of really nice features and the >> integrated display is great - I'm just busy working on interfacing it >> to a PS/2 keyboard to use as a very portable terminal! >>=20 >> Chris >>=20 >> -- >> http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive >> View/change your membership options at >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist >>=20 >=20 > --=20 > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .