> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15017484 I think the neutrinos just get excited by a trip to Italy The figure I've seen is 20ppm faster than light. They allegedly arrived 60ns before light would have, with an accountable error of 10ns One scientist asked why neutrinos haven't been observed (for whatever reason) ahead of supernovae, which they should do by a significant time period if at least one flavour of neutrino is 20ppm faster than light 20ppm of 1 year is 10.5 minutes. Even 1ppm faster than light would be 30s per lightyear distance Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .