I just got my ICD3 a few days ago. It cost me twice what I payed for a PICKIT2, but as I was working with PIC32MX and on a tight schedule I opted for the extra debug capability's. I am so pleased that I did, it is a fantastic tool, cost twice as much but is probably ten times as useful. Definitely great value for money even on the tightest budget. Cheers Chris --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .