On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 7:32 PM, William "Chops" Westfield wrote: > Maybe, maybe not. What is it you consider "a real EE" ? Someone who doesn't stick an Arduino into anything serious. > Just how > many "Real EE" classes have you taken as a bio/medicine major? 2 > years of calc, 2 years of physics, using those actual differential > equations to solve capacitor problems with non-constant dielectric > constants and the frequency response of transistor amplifiers due to > miller capacitance? An EE lab class where they make you use an > oscilloscope and a frequency generator? Done the numerical analysis > class so you know how errors seep into your pristine calculations? > I did not intend for this to get personal. I do not believe it is your authority to question my knowledge (or lack thereof). Why turn it around on me? One does not need to take "classes" to learn. I consider myself to be a decent cook, but have never formally studied the culinary arts, and so on and so forth... > There are things I'd trust to a technician over a PhD, and the other > way around. Likewise "real EEs" or "real CS" vs someone whose primary > knowledge was the the application... > Both the technician and PhD have more "primary knowledge" than a random ass biology researcher, excluding the odd case where this may not be true. Point is - the researcher shouldn't be relying on his little knowledge of the subject and the use of an Arduino for any serious research due to the variables he didn't know he should be accounting for. This is serious published work. If I tried to pull that kind of nonsense with something I had little knowledge in, in my research, my profs would freak. He should instead hire or seek the professional advice of someone who concerns himsel= f with "real EE". And that real EE in turn would almost certainly would not b= e using an Arduino. I have, for example, implemented several embedded systems for professors. And I already know that I don't know that much in the big scope of the EE field. That's why I sought the advice of someone that could be trusted in this stuff. Also, I post here, as I assume most of you are well versed in your professions. What I DIDN'T do was rig up some half-asse= d crap with an Arduino and call it a day. My work (had to) involve the proces= s of designing an outline, writing a lengthy proposal, creating full schematics, designing a PCB, having someone I could trust verify the integrity of my schematics and PCB, assemble the PCB, test the PCB, write the software, test the software and system so it meets my initial specs, an= d finally install the system in place. I believe that THIS is the process of "real EE". As I said, not some half-assed Arduino crap. The systems have been in place for 6 months in relatively harsh conditions and have been functioning perfectly, even under circumstances which OTHER equipment failed. THIS is publishable material, in a reputable journal (it is, in fact, going to get published as part of the prof's work). It would NOT get published if I half-assed it with a god damn Arduino and some random "shields" off the Internet. That would not be real EE. Just my opinion anyway. And yes, I have next to no formal education in your filed. But I don't care= , cuz I'm getting published. :) Before you sneer too much at the people who know less than you do in > some corner of your chosen block of "stuff to know", you might want to > consider how many people could be sneering at you for the same > reasons, and how they're wrong. > Oh, they could be very well correct and I may very well know nothing, but I already don't give a rat's ass what people think of me. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .