On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Gerhard Fiedler < lists@connectionbrazil.com> wrote: > > By the same token one could say that no EE (and by extension, no biology > researcher) shouldn't be trusted who can't design (and manufacture) > their own semiconductors... which would put many (otherwise quite > capable) EEs into the "untrusted" bin. > > Engineering is also about being able to draw reasonable boundaries and > build on the work of others, and "reasonable" depends a lot on the given > situation. Just because you are comfortable with reading semiconductor > component datasheets without really understanding all the subtle details > about the materials used in semiconductor manufacturing that one needs > to know in order to design a complex chip doesn't mean that this is a > boundary that's conceptually different from other boundaries. > You're right. But there's a gradient. There's a huge difference between a real EE using his skills and experience to draw these boundaries and a biological research who knows next to nothing about circuits. A HUGE difference. > I guess that's a different issue, and not really related to the Arduino. > There are some things people shouldn't expect to learn in university, so > they should go out and try to learn them elsewhere. > It is somewhat related to the Arduino. It's becoming a hipster movement or something. But I guess it's also a good thing - brings more attention to th= e DIY EE field. > Not sure what you mean by "real world", but to me the Arduino looks like > a seriously useful tool to solve problems the real world may pose to > some, just like a hammer. > I don't have to acquire blacksmith skills and > be able to make my own hammer "from scratch" in order to use a hammer to > adequately solve real-world problems... independently of the fact that > others may use a hammer where a screwdriver would be more appropriate. > A hammer is a piece of metal. There's almost nothing that can go wrong. I respectfully believe this model is an over simplification of the issue. In contrast, a microcontroller circuit is so much more complicated piece of equipment. There are many variables, and using such a system without understanding these variables is the problem. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .