What I wanted to be in college:
   http://www.ee.ryerson.ca/~elf/hack/realmen.html

30 years later it's about time to market and minimizing work headaches.
If those people you look down on are completing their assignments with=20
systems instead of bits and bytes they're ahead of the curve. :-)



On 9/15/2011 9:18 PM, John Hansen wrote:
> Well said.  I've been trying to figure out exactlybwhat bugged me about
> this...and this is exactly it.
>
> John
>
>
>   =20
>> I guess I'm biased then. What pisses me off about the Arduino is that al=
l
>> the script kiddies go and get one and type some random code and think
>> they've got it all down when they see an LED blink from some code they
>> copy/pasted off the Internet. That's pretty much 95% of all the kids in =
my
>> university getting a damn Arduino. Everything's pre built for them. They
>>     =20
> do
>   =20
>> zero laying down of EE components. All they do is plug it in and type.
>> That's not engineering. That's just stupid. They don't know anything abo=
ut
>> making schematics, designing a PCB, assembling it, inserting the
>>     =20
> processor,
>   =20
>> downloading your OWN assembler program via ICSP and seeing some /actual
>> code/ run. Most of these script kiddie dev boards get used to run "Hello
>> world" crap. It's a bastardization of the whole concept of EE, that is,
>>     =20
> the
>   =20
>> design process that I outlined above.
>>
>>     =20

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