Well said. I've been trying to figure out exactlybwhat bugged me about this...and this is exactly it. John > I guess I'm biased then. What pisses me off about the Arduino is that all > the script kiddies go and get one and type some random code and think > they've got it all down when they see an LED blink from some code they > copy/pasted off the Internet. That's pretty much 95% of all the kids in m= y > university getting a damn Arduino. Everything's pre built for them. They do > zero laying down of EE components. All they do is plug it in and type. > That's not engineering. That's just stupid. They don't know anything abou= t > making schematics, designing a PCB, assembling it, inserting the processor, > downloading your OWN assembler program via ICSP and seeing some /actual > code/ run. Most of these script kiddie dev boards get used to run "Hello > world" crap. It's a bastardization of the whole concept of EE, that is, the > design process that I outlined above. > --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .