Em 15/9/2011 19:58, V G escreveu: > In my opinion, a REAL ICE would be completely useless to you as a > beginner if you don't yet have the knowledge to even make the proper > connections. I disagree with your "useless". The Real ICE may be too expensive for the little advantages it offers over the ICD3 tough. > I believe a PIC32 is much too complicated to start with. No way! If the OP plans to program in C, it may be simpler. Lots of RAM, FLASH and horse-power. The peripherals are much similar to the other PICs. > My advice is, if you're starting with PICs, start with a PICKIT2/3=20 The OP is wishing to spend a lot of money in a Real ICE, The ICD3 is less than half the price and at shoulder height in features with the Real ICE. It has the best cost-benefit. The PICKit 2 or 3 don't reach the heels of the Real ICE or ICD3. > and something small and relatively simple such as a PIC16 or PIC18. These devices are more complicated than the dsPICs, PIC24 and PIC32 because their architecture has several limitations, such as different methods to access RAM and program memory, etc. > You need next to no external components to get it to work with a > PICKIT2/3 and they're easy to work with. That's true, but he wants to buy ready-made boards, so it doesn't matter for him. > Microchip provides example code, etc. I have also some stuff from > Microchip, but haven't had much time yet They provide lots of sample code, examples, etc. for the PIC32 also. > No, you're probably not ready to spend $500 that you have no idea how > to use if you don't understand what you're doing. The OP may be a spoiled rich kid to whom money is a no-concern. Just kidding :) Don't spend $500 with a Real ICE, spend $190 in an ICD3. Isaac --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .