Guessing [TECH] for this. So, I have a new EtherPIC (18f67fJ60) based project which I finally have=20 enough storage space to be able to consider a real web interface for. Because there are some rather complex table iteration tasks and the=20 like, it makes sense to move a lot of the formatting/processing to the=20 web browser. AJAX is a likely option (I.E. use javascript to pull data=20 from a much dumber backend on the PIC and format it on the web=20 interface), as is just writing a small Java application to poll via SNMP. My experience with JavaScript and/or Java is limited. Been years since=20 I did any major work that way - recent work has been limited to field=20 validation and a few other similar UI improvements when using a browser=20 with a full backend CGI script. And digging through online websites=20 to try to make sense of my options isn't getting me anywhere very fast. =20 Either they do overview stuff (I already know) about what AJAX is=20 capable of, or they are heavy on 'here's how you do it' without=20 explaining enough of what is going on in the script for me to be able to=20 parse the magic. Since from what I can tell, it is definitely=20 event-driven magic making AJAX work, which is pretty much indecipherable=20 unless you understand basics of what is being triggered when. Or I=20 could be missing the point entirely and that's why I can't decipher it=20 either.... On the full Java side, I just plain hate 'normal' java programming. =20 Reminds me a lot of windows programming which was just as big of a pain=20 until I found RealBasic. So I keep hoping for a RealBasic-like rad=20 tool which makes this intuitive instead of just being a pain. I'm hoping someone on the list has done something with either AJAX=20 (enough to point me in the right direction), and/or knows of a RealBasic=20 RAD tool. Ideas? -forrest --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .