Bob Blick wrote: > On Tuesday, September 06, 2011 8:46 PM, "Carl Denk" wrote: >=20 >>Were the lug bolts furnished with the wheels? If not the lugs and=20 >>wheel's mating surfaces may not have the same contour? i.e. conical=20 >>angle, spherical radius, etc. >> >>>I swap tires around on my Miata a couple of times a month, so I don't >>>have any problems with corrosion. But the studs and nuts would wear out >>>from all that action if they were dry. I put a little antiseize on maybe >>>once a year. At recommended torque I find that a lug here or there will >>>loosen up sometimes, but they are not the factory wheels or lugs, so the >>>recommended torque is just a number. I find I must go five pounds over >>>for them to stay tight. >=20 >=20 > They are both conical, and when I bought the wheels I asked for matching > nuts, and they do. >=20 > Chances are it's just that you really should re-torque after a few hours > of driving. But when I put on my sticky tires I want the wheels to stay > on all day, so I go five pounds over. Since I've been doing that I have > never had any motion when I re-torque. >=20 > And that may explain why tire shops regularly overtighten - they don't > want a nut to come loose and they don't care if they warp a rotor/drum. Sounds like you need to go to a better tire store. At Costco South Edmonton, they used to have TWO people do the final=20 tightening. One checked the torque wrench setting, then the other guy=20 tightened. Then the 2nd guy verified the setting and the first guy went=20 around and checked that that torques were correct. I was rather=20 surprised that they took the extra time, but I guess their lawyers went=20 anal on them (or the 2nd guy was in training??). At least Costco uses a proper torque wrench for final tightening. I'd never take my business to a shop that relied on the air wrench=20 settings. So take a few minutes to watch how they work in the shop so=20 you'll know what method to expect. Robert --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .