...."Turn of the Nut" method is the generally accepted method, where the nut is tightened to a snug condition, and then given an extra specified rotation, depending on grip length, bolt size, etc. That's how it's done for many applications. Some torque wrenches come with angular indicators built-in - There are also retrofit angle indicators for torque wrenches, tommy bars (for calibrated arms :) and the like. Automotive apps typically head nuts/bolts, con rod fasteners. Jack --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .