You could use an algorithm that measures the change in temperature over a=20 defined period of time from and to a defined temperature and use that as=20 your tuning value. Although I don't use PID in my incubator I do use the above method to get=20 the environment profile for heating. Colin -- cdb, colin@btech-online.co.uk on 3/09/2011 =20 Web presence: www.btech-online.co.uk =20 =20 Hosted by: www.justhost.com.au =20 =20 This email is to be considered private if addressed to a named individual= =20 or HR department, and public if addressed to a blog, forum or news=20 article. =20 =20 =20 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .