At 09:03 AM 9/1/2011, PICdude wrote: >would prefer to find some >off-the-shelf PID temperature controllers, to save me the hassle of >create PID controllers with autotuning. There are some surprisingly competent PID controllers available from=20 Chinese sources for cheap. I get mine from eBay (search for 'PID')=20 but they should be readily available from people who sell Chinese electroni= cs. dwayne --=20 Dwayne Reid Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd Edmonton, AB, CANADA (780) 489-3199 voice (780) 487-6397 fax www.trinity-electronics.com Custom Electronics Design and Manufacturing --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .