On Thu, September 1, 2011 1:34 pm, V G wrote: > should try HI-TECH and Microchip as well and see how they work for you. > They're also more standards compliant I believe, and give you more "low > level" support. They're also not built around the IDE and can be used ver= y > easily from the command line. C32 is based on gcc as well, so that's a > bonus. To expand on that, C32 *and* C30 are based upon gcc. For those that missed it (and those that didn't attend), here is the short video that ran before Steve Sanghi's keynote: Masters is no trivial effort from within Microchip- the kickoff meeting is in early January, the first pass slides due in February/early March, and every class gets dry run starting in May. Only a small portion of the presenters are actual 'Training Engineers' - most are folks presenting the classes are the same that did the design and support the parts every day. Some of the classes are "predicted" to showcase parts that Microchip expects to release around the time of Masters (such as the PIC10F320) [very sorry you were disappointed with that class, Dwayne], but schedules don't always work out! Masters is earlier next year- the week of August 6, 2012. Regards, Matt Bennett Just outside of Austin, TX 30.51,-97.91 The views I express are my own, not that of my employer, a large multinational corporation that you are familiar with. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .