Stack Exchange has a section where people debate Japanese grammar. Almost certainly would be a number there who would help. Look at http://japanese.stackexchange.com/ NOT meant to be a "translate this for me" but very likely thy can assist. I'll try fielding a question there now re this, but have a look. Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .