On 04/08/2011 19:58, Electron wrote: > Is an air core inductor of 1000 winds equivalent to an air core > inductor of 100 winds each on 10 layers? usually not. N squared is an approximation Short compared to diameter coils are different to coils long compared to=20 diameter. Multilayer coils behave differently. PCB Spiral coils are "interesting" for 50MHz to 500MHz, but at higher=20 frequencies they don't work as imagined and length becomes dominant. Also Skin Effect varies with frequency. This has a major impact. Also multilayer has more complicated distributed self capacitance Here is an interesting air core coil http://www.techtir.ie/construction/herge-radio-base It's in 3 parts. Two coils are wound about 25 turns + 25 turns=20 interleaved.. The 3rd coil is 5 turns separate to the side. If you put two completely separate air core coils (or any inductor) in=20 parallel, then you get 1/2 inductance. Put them in series and you get=20 double. But if the two coils are wound in parallel, then wiring them in=20 parallel is just like having fatter wire. The Q is increased (resistance=20 reduced to 1/2). The inductance remains the same as if there was one=20 coil. Connect them in series, and it's like a flattened two layer coil,=20 the inductance will be about x4 The 3rd coil is used for positive feedback. As long as losses are=20 greater than feedback, it doesn't oscillate. But as feedback is=20 increased more of the coil losses are "cancelled" and the Q rises=20 dramatically, and radio bandwidth is narrower. Just at the point of=20 balance gives dramatic performance as if it was a perfect inductor. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .