Microchip's large offering of PIC's is a blessing and curse. What is today's equivalent of a 16F84 for beginners? A couple years ago I would have said 16F628 but assume something has replaced it as the "jellybean" PIC. thanks chuckc --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .